Update! New Best Practices for ALL Online Marketers. YOU MUST READ NOW!

I’m literally on the airplane, flying to LA to film an infomercial. And just got this in my inbox from my merchant account.

READ IT NOW and please spread the word…

I’m also doing a BIG Webinar on this topic (plus revealing a new continuity model).

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Here are the new regulations…

DIRECT RESPONSE BEST PRACTICE GUIDELINES FOR MERCHANTS

TRIAL OFFERS

Marketing models that employ “Free-Trial”, “Deferred Billing” and/or “Shipping Only” are considered trial offers for purposes of this communication. Consumers must be receiving a tangible good or contracted service in exchange for charging of payment cards. Incentivized discount offers are acceptable when the cardholder is receiving goods or services in exchange for payment; however we will be unable to support accounts engaging in hidden or delayed charges and ‘free’ offers that are not truly free.

  1. Avoid using terms in your marketing and offer presentation such as “Free”, “Risk Free” or any similar and potentially misleading phrases when consumers will be enrolled in a monthly continuity program at the end of a trial period, or will be paying a deferred charge for the trial period. The phrase “Free Trial” is prohibited unless there is truly no cost or obligation incurred by the consumer.
  2. “Shipping & Handling Only” offers must be a fair and accurate shipping charge reasonable to be accrued by the merchant for providing the product.
  3. Trial offers must be extended for a minimum of 10 days.
  4. Trial periods should not begin until the product is shipped to the consumer.

MARKETING

  1. Avoid creating a ‘false sense of urgency’ for the consumer. Unless the consumer’s ability to order is genuinely taken away after a specified timeframe or order count is reached, this practice is prohibited. Use of applications such as countdown clocks, tickers, or language such as “Offer Expires Today!” is also prohibited.
  2. Product claims, by law, must be truthful. Claims regarding effectiveness must be substantiated by clinical research conducted to support the claims, and consistent with the formulas and ingredients in your product
  3. Qualifications for trial periods of a product should follow pre-determined rules disqualifying consumers who do not meet parameters, including but not limited to: Age, Weight, Height, and Location.
  4. Unreasonable claims or guarantees are prohibited. Examples of claims considered unreasonable are:

“Flushes Pounds”, “Flushes Toxins”, “Builds Muscles”

  • Stating that use of a product will result in permanent weight loss
  • Stating that a product will cause the consumer to lose a specified amount of weight in a specified timeframe
  • Stating that a product will cause substantial weight loss no matter what or how much the consumer eats.
  • Stating that use of a product can cause weight loss (or muscle growth) in specific body parts

“Free Money”, “Instant Money”

  • Stating that the product can substitute the income of a full time job
  • Stating that money can be earned with little to no effort or investment
  • Stating that use of a product will earn you hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars

Additional examples include:

  • Stating that the product has been successfully used by an unrealistic or unsubstantiated number of people
  • Stating that a product will secure the consumer a job, either at the product’s company or another company
  • Stating or implying that a product is endorsed or in any way associated with President Obama or a government entity

ENDORSEMENTS/TESTIMONIALS:

  1. Endorsements and testimonials of user experiences must reflect the true and honest opinions of the endorsee(s).
  2. Endorsements and testimonials provided must present a clear picture to consumers of realistic results of using the product. If advertisers do not have substantiation of a specific claim or endorsement, then generally expected results must be clearly disclosed and backed by substantiation of any claims.
  3. Blogs used for promotional purposes must be in compliance with published FTC guidelines, representing an accurate and full representation of the endorsee, or clearly designated as a fictional story if developed internally for marketing purposes.
  4. News Sites published in marketing materials must be in compliance with published FTC guidelines, and must be clearly presented to the consumer as an advertorial. Written consent should be obtained from a media outlet prior to using the logo.
  5. Implied celebrity endorsement by use of an image in your marketing is prohibited without express legal written consent.

AFFILIATE MARKETING (CPA) NETWORKS

A significant contributing factor to Historical Excessive chargeback violations has been the utilization of CPA Networks. Transactions generated from internet traffic and all other lead sources must be managed and monitored for potential fraud using an approved system. Third Party service engagement may be a requirement for account approval.

  1. CPA Networks should contractually be held accountable for monitoring traffic generated from participating marketers.
  2. Merchants must have monitoring plans in place to detect suspect traffic and monitor Affiliate and Sub-Affiliate performance.

BILLING TERMS DISCLOSURE

The FTC has recently published guidelines regarding “Negative Option” enrollment programs and is taking a very aggressive position against merchants utilizing/employing this business practice. Recommendations taken in part from the FTC’s website may include but are not limited to the following:

  1. Negative Option disclosures must be clear and conspicuous to the consumer and comply with published FTC principals.
  2. The full price of products sold must be within reasonable “fair market value”
  3. Under no circumstances should consumers be billed for a product or service not disclosed.
  4. Consumers must be required to validate understanding of the terms of the offer twice during order submission. The first validation can take place with the initial offer presentation prior to submission of credit card information, and the second during the checkout process. The confirmation order page must also require consumers to acknowledge that they agree to the Terms & Conditions and authorize the merchant to charge the credit card for the disclosed dollar amount. Terms must be displayed adjacent to the “submit”, “confirm” or any other “call to action” button confirming the order. The price must be within 100 pixels of the “submit”, “confirm” or any other “call to action” button.
    • Terms must be in a minimum 12-point “easy to read” font.
    • Avoid visually distracting graphics from the display of terms.
    • Pre-checked boxes must never be used.
    • Consumers should be required to actively and individually select each offer or bonus during the checkout process when there are multiple offers or up sells presented. No offers or up sells should be pre–selected or pre-checked.
    • Consumers should not be able to move forward in the offer or checkout until the box acknowledging the terms is checked.
    • Verbiage must clearly disclose the enrollment into an ongoing membership with no distraction. An example of an acceptable disclosure is: “By clicking “Submit” you acknowledge that you understand you are being enrolled in a 10 day trial for $4.95, and after expiration of the 10 day trial period you will be charged $59 per month until you cancel your service”
    • All products or services purchased when the call-to-action button is clicked should be billed as a single charge unless the order is fulfilled at different times requiring multiple charges.
    • Shipping and Handling should not be billed separate from charges for the product or service.

BILLING TIMEFRAMES

  1. A merchant may not bill a consumer the full price twice in a 30-day span. An acceptable billing cycle example would be:
    • Day 1 – Consumer signs up for a 10 day trial offer with paid shipping of $4.95 charged at the time of order.
    • Day 11 – The first monthly order is shipped and the consumer is billed the full price of $59.
    • Day 41 – The second monthly order is shipped and the consumer is billed the full price of $59.
  2. Consumers should not be billed prior to shipment of products.

REFUND POLICIES

Merchants must not make it difficult for consumers to exercise the disclosed cancellation procedures and all cancellation requests must be honored in accordance with the stated terms of the transaction.

  1. Refund policies must be disclosed prior to the sale completion. Establish a clear, concise statement of your refund and credit policy. Your policy should be consistent with the objectives of your business and the products or services sold.
  2. Merchants must not require return of any trial offer product samples in order for the consumer to receive a refund, or cancel their ongoing subscription.
  3. “Full Money Back” or “Full Satisfaction” guarantees are considered false and prohibited unless the offer provides a full refund on all products, including but not limited to Shipping & Handling charges.
  4. Refunds should be for the full amount charged including shipping and handling
  5. All future billing to a customer should be canceled when a refund is issued.
  6. All future billing to a customer should be canceled when a chargeback is received.

BACK END OFFERS, AKA UP SELLS OR CROSS SELLS:

All sales should be directly between the business entities (merchants) processing the transactions and the consumer, with consumer authorization for all purchases.

  1. Under no circumstances can consumer data be shared with another company as this is a violation of Brand Regulations, including but not limited to the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard.
  2. Forced and hidden up sells are strictly prohibited
  3. Up Sells with recurring charges are prohibited, regardless of consumer opt-in or acknowledgement of the offer.
  4. A one-time bonus offer may be extended to the consumer for an additional product offered by the same company as the initial transaction. The price of the bonus offer must be clearly disclosed and the consumer must acknowledge the terms of the sale prior to providing credit card information for completion of the sale, and again at order confirmation/ submission.

DESCRIPTORS

  1. ALL MERCHANTS DEFINED AS OFFERING A DIRECT MARKETING PRODUCT WILL BE ASSIGNED A DESCRIPTOR FORMATTED TO COMPLY WITH VISA REQUIREMENTS, TO INCLUDE AN *.
  2. Billing descriptor should be consistent with the website name, marketing materials, purchase confirmation, and shipping notification (if any) sent to the consumer.

FULFILLMENT

  1. Orders must be fulfilled in a timely manner. It is recommended that all products be shipped within 48 hours (2 business days) from the date of order.
  2. A confirmation email should be provided for all online orderswith physical shipment, within the prior 5 days to shipment or 2 days following shipment, including the following information:
    • Merchant contact information (at minimum a consumer service phone number)
    • Order information including purchaser’s name, unique order or customer ID, summary of item(s) purchased
    • Terms of the order, including initial amount billed and future billing schedule (this should be stressed)
    • Cancellation and refund policy
    • Delivery confirmation / tracking information
  3. An invoice should be included with the product including the following information:
    • Merchant contact information (at minimum a consumer service phone number)
    • Terms of the order, including initial amount billed and future billing schedule
    • Cancellation and refund policy

CUSTOMER SERVICE:

  1. Multiple methods of cancellation must be provided for consumers to cancel or request refunds, including at least two options of contact. Example of acceptable service channels include: phone, email, mail, and online chat. Phone support is strongly recommended as one of the options.
  2. “Contact Us” information including contact methods and hours of availability should be prominently displayed in all marketing, offer and payment pages, as well as included in purchase confirmations, invoices and any other communication with consumers.
  3. Customer Service must be easily accessible and available during reasonable business hours
  4. Refund and Cancellation Policies must be followed as disclosed to the consumer at the time of order
  5. Hold times to reach Customer Service must be less than 2 minutes.
  6. After hours voice mail should include a greeting that properly identifies the merchant to the consumer, provides hours of Customer Service availability and an expectation for call back.

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  • davidbaer
    It’s a fact: if you want your website to make you money, generate leads or get subscribers you have to advertise in order to drive traffic to it. Of course this is true for any business, but it is absolutely essential for online business.
    www.onlineuniversalwork.com
  • This is a great post, affiliate marketing is really getting tougher each day.
  • billcovert
    Great lists of "what-to-do's" Ryan - Thank you. Looking forward to being on Mondays call to get dialed in to any more updates. I am redesigning the Accelerator for Success system for the Dream Bar Cafe Principles right now. Onward to a great year! ~Bill
  • Guest
    Ryan, thanks for bringing everyone up to speed with this post reflecting our latest announcement regarding best practices. As always, you and your readers can contact my team at Powerpay directly with any questions or concerns at 888-639-9670. Thanks Jud!
  • Hi Everyone!

    I just got off the phone with a group from PowerPay, including their Compliance Officer, and wanted to clear a few things up for everyone who received an email like the one above this week.

    First, the above document seems to be PowerPay’s efforts to try and create a Best Practices guide for online marketing - and I agree with many of the comments here that they've done a good job so far.
    It is true that some of the language is still a little unpolished potentially and I want to help clear up some of the common concern points if I can:

    - Upsells are fine, as long as there is nothing sneaky going on. Make an offer, tell the customer what the terms and price are, and give them the choice to accept or decline the offer.

    - Selling a recurring product, like a membership or coaching service, as an upsell is perfectly fine! The key point of contention (and this is the impetus behind many of the points in the PowerPay document apparently) are the business practices and intentions driving the upsell implementation – specifically here, poor disclosure and hidden upsells. So offering a recurring product as an upsell is fine, if you tell the customer what you are offering, what the terms are, and give them the opportunity to either accept or decline the offer.

    - 1ShoppingCart’s Upsell Express feature (a post-sale upsell tool) is fully compliant. (disclosure: I am a product manager for 1Shoppingcart; I mention this point specifically because there are several comments asking whether this tool is a problem: it’s not!)

    - “Don’t charge twice in 30 days” – Interpretation: Don’t offer a two week ‘free trial’ for a monthly recurring product only to charge the whole price on day 14 at the close of the free trial, then charge the full price again two weeks later at the commencement of the second month (hence, no real free trial)

    I don’t want to write a whole new blog post in the comments here (too late?), but this covers some of the big questions.

    If I can help with more answers, we are in communication with PowerPay and I’m certainly willing to try and clear the air for all of us; either here (if it’s okay with Ryan) or on Twitter (find me at @1SC or @michaelvaliant).

    In the meantime, take the PowerPay guide for what it is - a guide to try and help merchants do eCommerce better - and know that the goal should be open and honest – read: full disclosure – eCommerce.

    Hope this helps!
  • Wow! Thanks Ryan for the update. Your information is the clearest I have found on these issues.
  • Martin
    Greetings from the UK.

    Wonder if affiliates who happen to be promoting merchant offers ''in breach of the legistlation'' are also liable to some degree? i.e. Are affilaites expected to check (and continually monitor) merchant sites they wish to refer traffic too, in order to ensure that the merchant site is - and stays - compliant?
  • Great information Ryan! Thanks for the update!
  • SueDiederich
    Some of these are truly laughable for several reasons, but ok... Most are just plain common sense, though. Since this is cc companies, it might actually be enforced, unlike the government regulations from the FTC, lol - I won't feel a bit sorry (being female) for all those spammers selling "herbs" for "enlargement!" etc.

    Honestly - its just a bunch of items that most of the folks who visit your blog already are doing, so I don't see much any of *us* have to worry about - lots of words, not many real tough changes. I hope it does what is intended, it will make the net a much better place for all the rest of us!!!

    Thanks for the official update though it is ALWAYS better to have these things "straight from the horse's mouth" as they say!!

    A short note about the upsells - instead of using the next level of membership, it can be changed to a product... The next higher membership level can be sold on its own. Should probably be done this way anyway - an offer of several levels of membership in the original offer, but then once a member starts with a basic membership, they still have an option to upgrade. They WILL - if they are receiving massive benefit from the level they are already at.

    It would be interesting to clear up the multi-level membership thing - I THINK they are saying to make the entire membership aspect of the funnel black-and-white up front, rather than to only have one level of membership.

    Other than taking out the OTO upgrades, it shouldn't be that hard to have each level of membership as a stand alone from within the continuity program itself. Especially if all levels of the membership are clearly defined in the original offer. Consumers being how they are, you will probably see about the same number of upgrades if you are providing an exceptional value.
  • Hi Ryan,
    Thanks for at least attempting to get the information out there about this whole mess. It is extremely confusing to those of us who are just beginning our internet marketing journey. As with all efforts that make people a lot of money, internet marketing has been allowed to do as it would, until the wrong person got scammed or sold something they didn't want or got some mystery charge from a "pill" they wanted to try.

    The government has finally found a way to bring everyone into compliance and it's hitting us where it hurts, in the pocket, both present and future.

    I was on the floor laughing at the comment that spoke about the rule that a customer can't be charge twice in 30 days, did they forget about February???!!! Hilarious.

    Whether we like it or not, we have to comply or risk making no money at all, but as with other things that are regulated, the people who want to stay true and really provide products and services that do what they say, without all the bull and the hype and who want to remain ethical, will succeed.

    I thank you for putting this information out there. I have been searching and searching. I have found bits and pieces about this and that, but nothing really as concise as this. And even if this is mainly from one provider, it is information. Information is the key to knowing how you will move forward.
  • brethoffer
    Ryan,

    thanks for your information. I've been a user of FG for a couple of years now...great stuff.

    anyway, not to be OCD but i noticed upon signup for the Webinar there is a typo within the time information. Not major because i'm sure people can figure it out but just so there are no questions.. this is what is showing on the GoToWebinar form

    ---Webinar Registration

    Here's the State of Continuity Webinar with Ryan Lee

    Mon, Feb 1, 2010 9:00 PM - 10:00 AM EST ---

    Thanks and see you on the 1st

    Bret Hoffer
  • Jason C. Brown
    This is a bunch of hypocrisy. You're telling me merchant services or any CC company has a wait time of less than 2 minutes.

    It takes 2 minutes just get enter all your information before you can actually speak with a human.

    As for this: "Up Sells with recurring charges are prohibited, regardless of consumer opt-in or acknowledgement of the offer."

    I hope they practice what they preach and stop enrolling people in identy theft protection plans and loss fo work protection plans.

    Last year I noticed a $9.97 recurring charge on one of my cards. I called up to see what it was and it was some type of protection plan offered by the CC company.

    I didn't sign anything, I didn't verbally agree to anything and yet I was enrolled. I must have said" mmm..mmm." on the phone once while listening to their jabber.

    Just another case of big biz sticking to little biz.
  • Thanks, Ryan for this very clear update.
  • Jefazo
    Hey guys,

    Before anyone goes off quoting this as the gospel, I'd recommend everyone do a little searching for ANY other website or location that mentions any of this stuff. I'm a client of the same merchant issuer that Ryan uses, and I know where he's getting the information, but that said, this information has yet to be verified as coming from anyone other than PowerPay.

    There is nothing official on the VISA/MC sites as far as anyone can tell, and many have contacted their own merchant issuers only to have them say they know nothing about these supposed 'official guidelines'.

    Everything I've found online in regards to all this continuity mess has directly quoted documents that have come from PowerPay, or another blog, or email that was originally written by a PowerPay client. If anyone can find anything about this, that isn't related to PowerPay, I'd love to see it.
  • I asked PowerPay about this and here is the answer:

    PowerPay has proactively created this as a 'Best Practices Guide' in anticipation of new rules to be handed down from Visa/MasterCard this year (possibly as soon as April).

    We have corroborated with other Merchant Account Providers that a push has come from Visa/MC aimed at the acquirer level... PowerPay just seems to be the most proactive company so far.
  • walterdaniels
    I would guess that regardless of who the card payment service is that this will be pretty much what they say. Powerpay may be the first to lay it out, but V/MC are close behind.
  • Thanks Ryan. Very informative.

    Just the others, I am also surprise by the new terms
    "Up Sells with recurring charges are prohibited, regardless of consumer opt-in or acknowledgement of the offer."

    But guess we had no choice but to comply. Have to think of other ways to market the 2nd recurring product then.

    Thanks,
    Keith Choy
  • Beau Smith
    "A merchant may not bill a consumer the full price twice in a 30-day span." What about February? Do the people at the FTC even realize it has only 28 days?

    "Up Sells with recurring charges are prohibited, regardless of consumer opt-in or acknowledgement of the offer." That seems almost like ignoring what the consumer wants, unless the consumer wants the same thing the FTC wants.

    Requiring multiple customer service channels, hold times less than 2 minutes (are you KIDDING?) and the like make it difficult for a small startup to operate. Especially a one man operation.

    These changes could make things very difficult for a lot of businesses. But those who find intelligent, ethical ways to operate without breaking any rules will have a definite edge. That could be profitable. I hope you cover that in your webinar.

    Thank you for all your help.
  • Nice load of information. This is going to take a lot of reading. Having been on the other side I appreciate the customer service requirements although for us small IMs it's going to be hard to do.

    Glen Ford
    http://www.TrainingNOW.ca
    http://www.LearningCreators.com/blog
    http://www.ContentCreators.ca
  • Heidi
    Hi Ryan, thanks for sharing this important policy shift. My online business is still in the creative phase, so having this knowledge now will save me a considerable amount of effort going forward.
  • One of the big things I'm interested is how this affects the 1-click upsell of 1ShoppingCart. I am mid-launch right now. I had an upsell funnel, but I talked to the guys at PowerPay and they asked me to remove the upsells, saying it was a violation of the terms. I went ahead and did it because I didn't want any merchant account issues in the middle of the launch, but I think they are overreacting.

    So, my question is... can we offer upsells now? Does 1SC have to change anything in the way Upsell Express works to be compliant?
  • Ryan - Glad to see someone posted these rules for the community - And kudos to this community for all of the great feedback!

    David - We don't see Upsell Express as being a violation to the rules in this post. The quick answer I received was, it was the upsell itself, not the use of upsell express that was the problem. I have a call Friday morning to open up a discussion with PowerPay, find out more information and to try figure out for everyone what these rules are going to mean moving forward.

    Michael Valiant
    1ShoppingCart
    twitter.com/1SC
  • petermclarty
    Thanks for the information Ryan. With all the confusion that seems to be around over the FTC and the credit card information it is good to see some analysis from the industry. This will surely help to clear up some of that and help people to understand that they are two differnt things.

    This has killed the original format for microcontinuity

    Peter
    http://www.makemoneyinasia.biz/chatter
  • Dax
    A one-time bonus offer may be extended to the consumer for an additional product offered by the SAME COMPANY as the initial transaction.

    OMG! by the same company. Guess I have to switch strategy with my JV offer and give a bonus and get their customers to sign up to to my auto responder and not use up sells.
  • Max
    "A one-time bonus offer may be extended to the consumer for an additional product offered by the same company as the initial transaction. The price of the bonus offer must be clearly disclosed and the consumer must acknowledge the terms of the sale prior to providing credit card information for completion of the sale, and again at order confirmation/ submission."

    **prior to providing credit card information** - so has this basically banned offering upsells after the credit card details have been given for the trial offer???? Shit! Somebody tell me I've got his wrong.
  • rickdearr
    It is interesting that as I was reading this I found we already do most of the things listed, but still have chargebacks from people who "forgot" or "never signed up for this" when they had to check a box on the cart that described the monthly charges... Guess we now have to protect ourselves from these consumers as well, so we can keep doing a service for our current customers.

    Thanks for the post, you are always in the know.
    Rick

    http://cashinaflashsecrets.com
  • Wow what a post, thanks for the heads up. Doesn't seem much of a pain to me apart from one or two changes. Bascially keep things clear and honest.

    I'm glad about not allowing the upsells anymore, they drove me mad.
  • gabrielelgrach
    This audio is cutting in and out. Please resend. Thank you. GG :-) Huge hugs!
  • inyah11
    It all makes sense for ethical service providers. State what you offer upfront and provide an option to subscribe to the trail or pass on the offer.
  • Josh_Anderson
    What is the name of the provider you use who provided you these guidelines?

    I received a statement from my own provider but it varies and it not as detailed as what you shared.

    Just curious to know what merchant company.
  • Maury
    Great Info Ryan - and thanks! I don't mind ONE upsell, but some 'gurus' want to throw 3, even four at you (Howie S). AND, they make you feel like the original offer you just paid good $$$ for is CRAP without the upsell(s). Maybe these new rules will make marketers wake up and stop doing the "hidden" membership after a 'free' trial (or just $1 or just pay S & H - which means they now have your CC info). Maybe this will also cut down on the upsells (that should have been included with the original product, or maybe ONE upsell).

    Thanks very much for the concise info.
  • James
    Maury, I can see how you would be upset about 3 Upsell's in a tree but Let get real because you would push more products from $77 - $197 range to all being $997. Why, because you have to make good money on each item you sell or you would never get an affiliates to promote for you. I am using upsell in a few products and I go from 2 to 3. I would love to go to a seminar that cost $5000 but someone offers the DVD for $497 in a upsell about 6 months later. I think that is a deal for me now you can always hit NO once or twice then I am done. I hate to say this but if you do not like Upsells then you better never buy anything again.
  • walterdaniels
    WOW. I have been planning on dropping many of the "guru" newsletters I get, as most are just affiliate links, and the the same links at that. Many advocate "monetizing the site and offers, with repeated attempts at upsells. I'm not a "guru," but I have a problem with this. If I have multiple products/offers, I should and will offer them all at one time. There should be full (or at least enough info to make a decisions if you want more) info, This, if I turn down, one I get more offers, or if I buy one, I get a more expensive one offered afterwards, is not good. If I want, I can buy them all at one time, or some combination of them.
    Customers do not exist for our benefit, but we for theirs. We forget that at our peril. IMO, we should bend over backwards to treat customers the way we would want. Be up front at all times, not just when we are forced to.Over the next year, I expect to see a big change in how things are done. Starting with the "post/copy this site, and make money," programs. BTW, marketers like Ryan are among the few I expect to see continue after the "crash."
  • diana135
    Ryan, thank you so much for posting this and keeping us well informed as this unfolds. It is indeed pretty detailed, but mostly I feel this just reinforces honesty and transparency in marketing. We can't ever argue with that.
    Not being able to offer continuity on an up-sell or OTO means those of us considering membership sites with various levels will need to be very clear about how we present them on our original sales page...or maybe the higher levels will need to be offered in a follow-up e-mail. Just means we have to re-think marketing strategies in this area.
  • onlineprofitdevil
    Thanks for posting this. This covers a lot, and to be honest, not really surprising. The upsells into continuity offers and bonus offers are a place where a lot of vendors try and pad their orders with slight of hand.
  • rd
    Haters have officially put the smack down on Internet Marketers. Consumer protection taken to the extreme.

    The only rule that should be required is if customers aren't happy or had a misunderstanding - REFUND THEM.
  • Joe
    sometimes no matter how clear you spell things out people do get confused or forget after a month also
    i as a consumer have almost never been on hold for less than 2 minutes with any major company.
  • Richard
    It's about time consumers get protected from predatory sellers. In particular the ads you see everywhere suggesting trials of teeth whitening products ($2.95, followed by $89 per month in the terms statement, and making it nearly impossible to cancel... and requiring shipment of the used container to enable cancellation), weight loss products and such. I actually had to cancel a credit card in order to avoid further charges (it took a monumental rage to get the supervisor to refund charges and cancel the shipment before it was sent... which is nearly impossible to achieve).

    It might make life a bit difficult for honest sellers, but such protection seems to be necessary. These practices have been getting totally out of hand.
  • Great post dude!
  • jaymanyr544
    Can you please provide a link to where you found this information. I do not see it on the FTC website.
  • diana135
    Jay, Ryan tells us this information is from a Merchant Account provider---Visa or Mastercard, and this is how the provider is interpreting and enforcing the rules related to the FTC regs.
  • TheBrainTeacher
    Massive Ryan (Do you read these posts?) Where is the FTC source that confirms THEIR requirements, especially in relation to 'offer ends today' messaging? This may have ramifications in Australia, yet only IF it's an FTC requirement - not just panicky merchants.

    What is the EXACT source for

    1.Avoid creating a ‘false sense of urgency’ for the consumer. Unless the consumer’s ability to order is genuinely taken away after a specified timeframe or order count is reached, this practice is prohibited. Use of applications such as countdown clocks, tickers, or language such as “Offer Expires Today!” is also prohibited.
  • Wow Ryan!

    What a full post.

    Thanks
  • would a hidden upsell include 1shoppingcarts upsell feature, that pops up during checkout?
  • Ben, no, Upsell Express requires the customer to agree to the upsell offer, there is nothing hidden about it.

    But there may be some implementation concerns - like not being able to sell recurring products from the upsell (one of the rules above I don't understand) - most of which are not exclusive to Upsell Express and would be equally valid concerns for your website itself - like ensuring the Final Price is displayed close to the offer buttons.

    We have a meeting with PowerPay to go over the finer details on Friday and I'll make sure to come back and try and keep the community as up to date as I can.

    1ShoppingCart
    twitter.com/1SC
  • dave
    gotta call it like i see it.... some of this is such a big load of BS crap.

    from a customers perspective.... if i manually checked i wanted an offer/continuity and they made me check it again, not only is that annoying, but i'd think its redundant and a pain in the butt.

    the hold times to 2 minutes? LOL are they monitoring this? cmon... what a joke.

    why do i still see recurring offers online which don't do ANY of this stuff?? I'm not just talking about cpa offers, IM offers... but big companies... like px90....
  • what is a hidden upsell?
  • jamesearly
    Ryan,

    You are providing more value with all the info you share with us than anyone else I know. I am just getting things cooking finally with my site and figuring out how to structure everything and the details you give here are totally invaluable. Muchas gracias.
  • Great info cheers dude ;-)
  • davecrane
    Thanks for providing this information!
  • Thanks for keeping everyone up to date Ryan.
  • cottageguru
    This is very useful. I am finalising my membership site and seem to be starting out at the best time!
  • Nice info Ryan. going to post this on my site. Thanks a bunch!!
  • Ryan,
    Thanks for the copy and paste into your blog. This really lays it out on the table.
    Now I know exactly what I need to do since I almost started the continuity format.
    Hopefully this will make online marketers play by the same rules of integrity.
    Time to get to work!
    Randy VanderVeen
    http://HuntFullTime.com
  • Thanks Ryan, looking forward to the webinar. I would expect that my merchant bank or gateway company, or even my shopping cart company, would be proactive on this. Instead, I get the lowdown from you.
  • Overall not really anything bad, simply stuff that should have been already being done by companies.

    EXCEPT: "Up Sells with recurring charges are prohibited, regardless of consumer opt-in or acknowledgement of the offer." - Unbelievable... not much to even say here... just... stupid?

    And: "The full price of products sold must be within reasonable “fair market value”" ... this could be a recipe for disaster... who decides what a product is worth? The person buying it obviously... if it's not worth the price they wouldn't be buying it... Plenty of products are sold that are physically identical to other products minus the branding and marketing... think generic brands, etc... $1 for a 30 day supply verses $50 for a 30 day supply of non-generic.
  • Any ideas how this might effect Paypal's requirements for merchants? Think we'll see something similar come directly from them?
  • walterdaniels
    I can see this as there are products being sold at inflated values. I _suspect_ that it's aimed at the infomercial companies. Not naming any names, but they sell products that are probably highly inflated costs, and I am told do upsells worse than net marketers.
    Most likely the companies selling "real estate," etc., are the ones primarily aimed at, with the "upsell continuity" warning. At least that's what I suspect. The rest is what good companies should probably have been careful of anyway.In any case, it's wonderful to have it in writing, as we try to figure out how it will work for us.
  • TaylorAdams4Me
    The guidelines are addressing the abuse of these practices. I've stopped attempting to buy products from television, because you have to engage in another 30 minutes of upsell attempts after you've agreed to buy the product you called about. Then, in the process of the upsell attempt, one definitely gets the feeling that there will be other charges than the one thing you came to buy. This abusive of the upsell is causing extreme chargebacks.

    Basic business course covers how the market value of a product is determined. When you are looking at longevity, you do want to consider the market value in your pricing. Even extreme undercutting is not always a good thing. It can water down a market and make a product or service not profitable.
    Just sharing these practices aren't so out there.
  • bordstudios
    Wow, no continuity on upsells...BRUTAL!

    Thanks for the info Ryan, I haven't seen anyone providing so much on this.

    You rock brother!
  • Infopreneur
    Ryan,

    This is a pretty exhaustive list explaining pretty much every detail that we need to be aware of. Thanks for sharing it with us and can't wait to see what you have to share in the Webinar!
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